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DavidM at 19:35, 11 April 2010

2010-04-11T19:35:02Z

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	http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/furniture/speaker-and-display-mounts/peerless-im760pu-in-wall-mount lists shops selling it for $340 US		http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/furniture/speaker-and-display-mounts/peerless-im760pu-in-wall-mount lists shops selling it for $340 US

			{{Blikied\|June 20, 2009}}

199.166.207.144: /* Should have? */

2009-06-21T01:42:41Z

Should have?

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	* XV/deep colour		* XV/deep colour
	* 120hz pass through		* 120hz pass through
	* audio pass through (to listen to TV audio while receiver is off)		* audio pass through (to listen to TV audio while receiver is off) ''probably not necessary in my case since using the tv's tuner for audio rather than an external satellite/cable box''

	== Nice to have ==		== Nice to have ==

199.166.207.144: /* Should have? */

2009-06-20T21:58:34Z

Should have?

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	* XV/deep colour		* XV/deep colour
	* 120hz pass through		* 120hz pass through
			* audio pass through (to listen to TV audio while receiver is off)

	== Nice to have ==		== Nice to have ==

DavidM: /* Current preferred setup */

2009-06-01T19:46:08Z

Current preferred setup

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	Yamaha v765 or H-K 254		Yamaha v765 or H-K 254

			They both have virtual 5.1 on headphones.

	<blockquote>SILENT CINEMA makes it possible to hear large-scale surround sound through ordinary headphones! This is a variation of CINEMA DSP technology that Yamaha developed to let you listen in private to movies and other multi-channel sources for hours without listening fatigue.</blockquote>		<blockquote>SILENT CINEMA makes it possible to hear large-scale surround sound through ordinary headphones! This is a variation of CINEMA DSP technology that Yamaha developed to let you listen in private to movies and other multi-channel sources for hours without listening fatigue.</blockquote>
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	Yamaha promises feature rich, HK is promising faithfulness in basic features. HK waits two years between cycles. Even though some people think Yamaha appearance is cheap, I like them both compared to other brands including Denon, Onkyo, Sony, etc. They have a simple streamlined design, HK emphasizes through obscurity, Yamaha through dynasty, the angle somehow emphasizes the display vs control function.		Yamaha promises feature rich, HK is promising faithfulness in basic features. HK waits two years between cycles. Even though some people think Yamaha appearance is cheap, I like them both compared to other brands including Denon, Onkyo, Sony, etc. They have a simple streamlined design, HK emphasizes through obscurity, Yamaha through dynasty, the angle somehow emphasizes the display vs control function.

			http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16125045

			Yamaha has pre-outs. This is huge if you ever want to step up to a power amps. I have a power amp for my mains, so this completely ruled out the 1909 and 2309 for that matter.

			The 65 series Yamahas have a very nice feature called HDMI pass through, so you can still send the signal from your set top box or bluray player to your TV without turning on the receiver. I love this idea, as sometimes the TV speakers are good enough, and don't need to waste the power.

			(2009 Denon models have this feature too).

			"The drawback of Yamaha's YPAO is it only optimizes listening for one position."

	KEF IQ series		KEF IQ series

DavidM: /* Current preferred setup */

2009-06-01T18:42:38Z

Current preferred setup

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	== Current preferred setup ==		== Current preferred setup ==

	Yamaha v765 or ~~Denon 789~~		Yamaha v765 or H-K 254

	<blockquote>SILENT CINEMA makes it possible to hear large-scale surround sound through ordinary headphones! This is a variation of CINEMA DSP technology that Yamaha developed to let you listen in private to movies and other multi-channel sources for hours without listening fatigue.</blockquote>		<blockquote>SILENT CINEMA makes it possible to hear large-scale surround sound through ordinary headphones! This is a variation of CINEMA DSP technology that Yamaha developed to let you listen in private to movies and other multi-channel sources for hours without listening fatigue.</blockquote>

DavidM: /* Current preferred setup */

2009-06-01T00:56:21Z

Current preferred setup

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	Yamaha v765 or Denon 789		Yamaha v765 or Denon 789

			<blockquote>SILENT CINEMA makes it possible to hear large-scale surround sound through ordinary headphones! This is a variation of CINEMA DSP technology that Yamaha developed to let you listen in private to movies and other multi-channel sources for hours without listening fatigue.</blockquote>

			DO WANT its what audio has become

			Yamaha promises feature rich, HK is promising faithfulness in basic features. HK waits two years between cycles. Even though some people think Yamaha appearance is cheap, I like them both compared to other brands including Denon, Onkyo, Sony, etc. They have a simple streamlined design, HK emphasizes through obscurity, Yamaha through dynasty, the angle somehow emphasizes the display vs control function.

	KEF IQ series		KEF IQ series

DavidM: /* Nice to have */

2009-05-31T11:52:21Z

Nice to have

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	* Nice appearance (least like Pioneer's shiny plastic or Denon's weird curves, they all have too many buttons)		* Nice appearance (least like Pioneer's shiny plastic or Denon's weird curves, they all have too many buttons)
	* Convert analog video to hdmi (decreasingly important but would require getting a new disc player)		* Convert analog video to hdmi (decreasingly important but would require getting a new disc player)
			* volume scale starts at 0
			* nameable inputs
			* assignable audio/video combinations

	== Feature analysis ==		== Feature analysis ==

DavidM: /* Feature analysis */

2009-05-31T01:26:43Z

Feature analysis

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	Be careful with receivers that use Audyssey because there are several different levels: http://www.audyssey.com/technology/multEQ_products.html. Low-cost receivers may only have Audyssey 2EQ, which doesn't EQ the subwoofer at all. MultEQ and MultEQ XT are usually only on higher end products. Also, as soon as you want to make any manual adjustments to the EQ, Audyssey is turned off and you just get the same kind of parametric EQ that Yamaha uses.		Be careful with receivers that use Audyssey because there are several different levels: http://www.audyssey.com/technology/multEQ_products.html. Low-cost receivers may only have Audyssey 2EQ, which doesn't EQ the subwoofer at all. MultEQ and MultEQ XT are usually only on higher end products. Also, as soon as you want to make any manual adjustments to the EQ, Audyssey is turned off and you just get the same kind of parametric EQ that Yamaha uses.

			...

			http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1122166&page=9

			Also, I think the YAPO sounds better than Audsssey. I felt that the Audssey bloated the midrange and made voices sound to bassy.

	== Receiver ==		== Receiver ==

DavidM: /* Yamaha */

2009-05-31T01:26:06Z

Yamaha

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	http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10168346-1.html		http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10168346-1.html

			V365 has no audio for HDMI.

			V665 has audio pass-through while in standby. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1122166&page=9

	=== Onkyo TX-SR307 ===		=== Onkyo TX-SR307 ===

DavidM: /* Current preferred setup */

2009-05-31T01:08:57Z

Current preferred setup

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	== Current preferred setup ==		== Current preferred setup ==

	~~I have no idea.~~		Yamaha v765 or Denon 789

			KEF IQ series

	== Required receiver features ==		== Required receiver features ==