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2011-05-06T12:31:08Z

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	This is more of a hobbie these days, every once in a while a Rogers moderator replies in a sympathetic tone, but situation is clear.		This is more of a hobbie these days, every once in a while a Rogers moderator replies in a sympathetic tone, but situation is clear.

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	~~In response to someone asking why people are holding Rogers responsible for two month delays of devices:~~

	~~<blockquote~~>We are holding them responsible because we are stuck buying our handsets from them. Clearly, Rogers doesn’t have the clout many other carriers do. Rogers has had to delay their Galaxy S launch until mid October, here in NYC they are having a buy one, get one free promotion. What would be the best solution? Making it reasonable for us to buy our own handsets on the free market, without paying double the cost for the obligatory subsidy fee. Why is the market stuck on subsidized handsets anyway? I haven’t needed to have anything subsidized since I was a teenager. So, yes, this is the fault of the carriers, and if there were a free market for handsets the situation would be much better.</~~blockquote~~>

	~~Posted Sep 28~~, ~~2010 - posted nearly immediately. Clearly they don't expect people to get behind this solution.~~

	~~<blockquote>I am in the states and couldn’t help but notice there is a~~ [http://~~zooid~~.~~org~~/~~~vid~~/~~roger~~.~~jpg promotion for the Galaxy S from one carrier — buy one get one free~~]~~. Doesn’t sound like much of a ‘manufacturing delay’ to me.<br~~ /~~>I cannot say I am disappointed with Rogers as my expectations are low. I used to characterize myself as a victim~~, now I’m past that, lying on the ground with an arrow in my back, totally beaten down without any hope of any sensible plan in this world of entertainment handsets when I need a professional one (Android with keyboard), and contests when I just want fair pricing and terms. Which I’ve articulated numerous times and it just makes sense, including in the face of this “manufacturing delay” — let me buy my own handset on the free market, and offer me an unsubsidized plan. Sound fair? Yeah I know it does, but I also know I can take my ideas to that subterranean fiery place so you can focus on people looking for the shiny.<br /~~>I hope you hear me moderator and I can cry on your shoulder, because I can’t expect much else and for my two smartphone lines ($2400 a year) I’m certainly buying you dinner~~.
	</~~blockquote>~~

	~~Posted Sep 27, 2010~~

	== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==		== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==

DavidM: Reverted edits by Osejisycym (Talk) to last revision by 207.96.107.82

2010-11-24T01:50:39Z

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	Rogers made a vow to open up their support to 'social media' and post any reasonable comment. This is a very progressive position, but some comments don't seem to be making it through the moderation queue.		Rogers made a vow to open up their support to 'social media' and post any reasonable comment. This is a very progressive position, but some comments don't seem to be making it through the moderation queue.

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	In response to someone asking why people are holding Rogers responsible for two month delays of devices:		In response to someone asking why people are holding Rogers responsible for two month delays of devices:

	~~<~~blockquote~~>~~We are holding them responsible because we are stuck buying our handsets from them. Clearly, Rogers doesn’t have the clout many other carriers do. Rogers has had to delay their Galaxy S launch until mid October, here in NYC they are having a buy one, get one free promotion. What would be the best solution? Making it reasonable for us to buy our own handsets on the free market, without paying double the cost for the obligatory subsidy fee. Why is the market stuck on subsidized handsets anyway? I haven’t needed to have anything subsidized since I was a teenager. So, yes, this is the fault of the carriers, and if there were a free market for handsets the situation would be much better.~~<~~/blockquote~~>~~		<blockquote>We are holding them responsible because we are stuck buying our handsets from them. Clearly, Rogers doesn’t have the clout many other carriers do. Rogers has had to delay their Galaxy S launch until mid October, here in NYC they are having a buy one, get one free promotion. What would be the best solution? Making it reasonable for us to buy our own handsets on the free market, without paying double the cost for the obligatory subsidy fee. Why is the market stuck on subsidized handsets anyway? I haven’t needed to have anything subsidized since I was a teenager. So, yes, this is the fault of the carriers, and if there were a free market for handsets the situation would be much better.</blockquote>

	Posted Sep 28, 2010 - posted nearly immediately. Clearly they don't expect people to get behind this solution.		Posted Sep 28, 2010 - posted nearly immediately. Clearly they don't expect people to get behind this solution.

	~~<~~blockquote~~>~~I am in the states and couldn’t help but notice there is a [http://zooid.org/~vid/roger.jpg promotion for the Galaxy S from one carrier — buy one get one free]. Doesn’t sound like much of a ‘manufacturing delay’ to me.~~<~~br /~~>~~I cannot say I am disappointed with Rogers as my expectations are low. I used to characterize myself as a victim, now I’m past that, lying on the ground with an arrow in my back, totally beaten down without any hope of any sensible plan in this world of entertainment handsets when I need a professional one (Android with keyboard), and contests when I just want fair pricing and terms. Which I’ve articulated numerous times and it just makes sense, including in the face of this “manufacturing delay” — let me buy my own handset on the free market, and offer me an unsubsidized plan. Sound fair? Yeah I know it does, but I also know I can take my ideas to that subterranean fiery place so you can focus on people looking for the shiny.~~<~~br /~~>~~I hope you hear me moderator and I can cry on your shoulder, because I can’t expect much else and for my two smartphone lines ($2400 a year) I’m certainly buying you dinner.		<blockquote>I am in the states and couldn’t help but notice there is a [http://zooid.org/~vid/roger.jpg promotion for the Galaxy S from one carrier — buy one get one free]. Doesn’t sound like much of a ‘manufacturing delay’ to me.<br />I cannot say I am disappointed with Rogers as my expectations are low. I used to characterize myself as a victim, now I’m past that, lying on the ground with an arrow in my back, totally beaten down without any hope of any sensible plan in this world of entertainment handsets when I need a professional one (Android with keyboard), and contests when I just want fair pricing and terms. Which I’ve articulated numerous times and it just makes sense, including in the face of this “manufacturing delay” — let me buy my own handset on the free market, and offer me an unsubsidized plan. Sound fair? Yeah I know it does, but I also know I can take my ideas to that subterranean fiery place so you can focus on people looking for the shiny.<br />I hope you hear me moderator and I can cry on your shoulder, because I can’t expect much else and for my two smartphone lines ($2400 a year) I’m certainly buying you dinner.
	~~<~~/blockquote~~>~~		</blockquote>

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	== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==		== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==

	~~"~~What are your thoughts on the new service? How have you changed the ways you enjoy video entertainment?~~"~~		"What are your thoughts on the new service? How have you changed the ways you enjoy video entertainment?"

	I realize (and it’s clear from the inclusion of statistics) that Rogers doesn’t need to focus on what any individual wants. But I don’t want just first run movies, trendy sports and series in an exclusive community, I want world scale choice and pricing with the knowledge and chaos of the Internet. I have yet to see any Rogers promotions that have been aimed at me, aside maybe from the initial “open,” “revolution” Android ads, which unfortunately proved rather false. While I am not included in “nearly 60 per cent of 18-34 year-old,” I am pretty sure the majority of people would simply like Roger to provide reliable, fast, competitive Internet service so we can choose from a global palette of options. Rogers should certainly participate in extra offerings, but not to the detriment to the bigger idea.		I realize (and it’s clear from the inclusion of statistics) that Rogers doesn’t need to focus on what any individual wants. But I don’t want just first run movies, trendy sports and series in an exclusive community, I want world scale choice and pricing with the knowledge and chaos of the Internet. I have yet to see any Rogers promotions that have been aimed at me, aside maybe from the initial “open,” “revolution” Android ads, which unfortunately proved rather false. While I am not included in “nearly 60 per cent of 18-34 year-old,” I am pretty sure the majority of people would simply like Roger to provide reliable, fast, competitive Internet service so we can choose from a global palette of options. Rogers should certainly participate in extra offerings, but not to the detriment to the bigger idea.
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	== RedBoard’s FAAQ: Frequently Asked Android Questions ==		== RedBoard’s FAAQ: Frequently Asked Android Questions ==

	Alan - let me assure you, you don't need to step in and apologize on behalf of corporations. There's nothing, anywhere that says ~~"~~consumer phones are meant to be locked down.~~"~~ That's more tenuous than Rogers' statement that their offering would be a ~~"~~revolution~~"~~ and ~~"~~open.~~"~~ A statement that some of us would like them to follow up on, rather than making excuses on their behalf that accepts a dysfunctional status quo.		Alan - let me assure you, you don't need to step in and apologize on behalf of corporations. There's nothing, anywhere that says "consumer phones are meant to be locked down." That's more tenuous than Rogers' statement that their offering would be a "revolution" and "open." A statement that some of us would like them to follow up on, rather than making excuses on their behalf that accepts a dysfunctional status quo.

	I have no desire to own the Nexus One as I want a keyboard device. Further, the formula doesn't make sense, since I'd be continuing to pay monthly subsidization fees to Rogers, effectively nearly paying double for my handset.		I have no desire to own the Nexus One as I want a keyboard device. Further, the formula doesn't make sense, since I'd be continuing to pay monthly subsidization fees to Rogers, effectively nearly paying double for my handset.
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	* It's good Rogers has clarified we can use third party devices, and even embraced the Nexus One. However, people who are not using a subsidized device should be paying a lower fee [rogers can use its position as a hardware purveyor more competitively and progressively]		* It's good Rogers has clarified we can use third party devices, and even embraced the Nexus One. However, people who are not using a subsidized device should be paying a lower fee [rogers can use its position as a hardware purveyor more competitively and progressively]

	Finally, I would like a ~~"~~my profile~~"~~ link on this site so I can find all postings I've made, and see others' profiles. Several postings I made haven't shown up after a week.		Finally, I would like a "my profile" link on this site so I can find all postings I've made, and see others' profiles. Several postings I made haven't shown up after a week.

	Posted April 1, 2010 to http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/redboard-one-month-how-are-we-doing/		Posted April 1, 2010 to http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/redboard-one-month-how-are-we-doing/

Osejisycym at 23:43, 23 November 2010

2010-11-23T23:43:41Z

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2010-09-28T16:12:40Z

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DavidM at 17:43, 27 September 2010

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DavidM at 17:41, 27 September 2010

2010-09-27T17:41:42Z

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	<blockquote>I am in the states and couldn’t help but notice there is a [http://zooid.org/~vid/roger.jpg promotion for the Galaxy S from one carrier — buy one get one free]. Doesn’t sound like much of a ‘manufacturing delay’ to me.<br />I cannot say I am disappointed with Rogers as my expectations are low. I used to characterize myself as a victim, now I’m past that, lying on the ground with an arrow in my back, totally beaten down without any hope of any sensible plan in this world of entertainment handsets when I need a professional one (Android with keyboard), and contests when I just want fair pricing and terms. Which I’ve articulated numerous times and it just makes sense, including in the face of this “manufacturing delay” — let me buy my own handset on the free market, and offer me an unsubsidized plan. Sound fair? Yeah I know it does, but I also know I can take my ideas to that subterranean fiery place so you can focus on people looking for the shiny.<br />I hope you hear me moderator and I can cry on your shoulder, because I can’t expect much else and for my two smartphone lines ($2400 a year) I’m certainly buying you dinner.		<blockquote>I am in the states and couldn’t help but notice there is a [http://zooid.org/~vid/roger.jpg promotion for the Galaxy S from one carrier — buy one get one free]. Doesn’t sound like much of a ‘manufacturing delay’ to me.<br />I cannot say I am disappointed with Rogers as my expectations are low. I used to characterize myself as a victim, now I’m past that, lying on the ground with an arrow in my back, totally beaten down without any hope of any sensible plan in this world of entertainment handsets when I need a professional one (Android with keyboard), and contests when I just want fair pricing and terms. Which I’ve articulated numerous times and it just makes sense, including in the face of this “manufacturing delay” — let me buy my own handset on the free market, and offer me an unsubsidized plan. Sound fair? Yeah I know it does, but I also know I can take my ideas to that subterranean fiery place so you can focus on people looking for the shiny.<br />I hope you hear me moderator and I can cry on your shoulder, because I can’t expect much else and for my two smartphone lines ($2400 a year) I’m certainly buying you dinner.
			</blockquote>

	Posted Sep 27, 2010		Posted Sep 27, 2010

DavidM: /* http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ */

2010-09-27T17:41:24Z

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	'''Some of these have been eventually posted''', after the conversation had died down. A few were called off topic.		'''Some of these have been eventually posted''', after the conversation had died down. A few were called off topic.

			http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/samsung-galaxy-s-captivate-available-from-rogers-mid-october/#comment-12694

			This is more of a hobbie these days, every once in a while a Rogers moderator replies in a sympathetic tone, but situation is clear.

			<blockquote>I am in the states and couldn’t help but notice there is a [http://zooid.org/~vid/roger.jpg promotion for the Galaxy S from one carrier — buy one get one free]. Doesn’t sound like much of a ‘manufacturing delay’ to me.<br />I cannot say I am disappointed with Rogers as my expectations are low. I used to characterize myself as a victim, now I’m past that, lying on the ground with an arrow in my back, totally beaten down without any hope of any sensible plan in this world of entertainment handsets when I need a professional one (Android with keyboard), and contests when I just want fair pricing and terms. Which I’ve articulated numerous times and it just makes sense, including in the face of this “manufacturing delay” — let me buy my own handset on the free market, and offer me an unsubsidized plan. Sound fair? Yeah I know it does, but I also know I can take my ideas to that subterranean fiery place so you can focus on people looking for the shiny.<br />I hope you hear me moderator and I can cry on your shoulder, because I can’t expect much else and for my two smartphone lines ($2400 a year) I’m certainly buying you dinner.

			Posted Sep 27, 2010

	== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==		== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==

DavidM: /* Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers */

2010-09-11T14:11:49Z

Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers

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	== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==		== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==

			"What are your thoughts on the new service? How have you changed the ways you enjoy video entertainment?"

	I realize (and it’s clear from the inclusion of statistics) that Rogers doesn’t need to focus on what any individual wants. But I don’t want just first run movies, trendy sports and series in an exclusive community, I want world scale choice and pricing with the knowledge and chaos of the Internet. I have yet to see any Rogers promotions that have been aimed at me, aside maybe from the initial “open,” “revolution” Android ads, which unfortunately proved rather false. While I am not included in “nearly 60 per cent of 18-34 year-old,” I am pretty sure the majority of people would simply like Roger to provide reliable, fast, competitive Internet service so we can choose from a global palette of options. Rogers should certainly participate in extra offerings, but not to the detriment to the bigger idea.		I realize (and it’s clear from the inclusion of statistics) that Rogers doesn’t need to focus on what any individual wants. But I don’t want just first run movies, trendy sports and series in an exclusive community, I want world scale choice and pricing with the knowledge and chaos of the Internet. I have yet to see any Rogers promotions that have been aimed at me, aside maybe from the initial “open,” “revolution” Android ads, which unfortunately proved rather false. While I am not included in “nearly 60 per cent of 18-34 year-old,” I am pretty sure the majority of people would simply like Roger to provide reliable, fast, competitive Internet service so we can choose from a global palette of options. Rogers should certainly participate in extra offerings, but not to the detriment to the bigger idea.

	~~"What are your thoughts on the new service? How have you changed the ways you enjoy video entertainment?"~~

	Posted Sept 10 morning. One day later several other postings made ... not that one.		Posted Sept 10 morning. One day later several other postings made ... not that one.

DavidM: /* Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers */

2010-09-11T14:11:26Z

Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers

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	'''Some of these have been eventually posted''', after the conversation had died down. A few were called off topic.		'''Some of these have been eventually posted''', after the conversation had died down. A few were called off topic.

			== http://redboard.rogers.com/2010/rogers-on-demand-online-rentals-to-launch-next-month/ ==

			I realize (and it’s clear from the inclusion of statistics) that Rogers doesn’t need to focus on what any individual wants. But I don’t want just first run movies, trendy sports and series in an exclusive community, I want world scale choice and pricing with the knowledge and chaos of the Internet. I have yet to see any Rogers promotions that have been aimed at me, aside maybe from the initial “open,” “revolution” Android ads, which unfortunately proved rather false. While I am not included in “nearly 60 per cent of 18-34 year-old,” I am pretty sure the majority of people would simply like Roger to provide reliable, fast, competitive Internet service so we can choose from a global palette of options. Rogers should certainly participate in extra offerings, but not to the detriment to the bigger idea.

			"What are your thoughts on the new service? How have you changed the ways you enjoy video entertainment?"

			Posted Sept 10 morning. One day later several other postings made ... not that one.

	== Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers ==		== Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers ==

DavidM at 16:33, 2 September 2010

2010-09-02T16:33:17Z

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	== Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers ==		== Samsung Galaxy S Captivate coming soon to Rogers ==

	What is there to get over really. It has a nice screen and up to date specs. It has a slightly out of date OS that is promised (…….) to be updated in a few weeks! (though no word on what will be the up to date OS in a mere month, Android 3.0).

	~~No word on crucial features like how tethering will work. And it only satisfies entertainment and casual communications users (no hard keyboard).~~

	People need to raise their standards, ask for more, is Android just another OS or is it in any way “open?” If it’s just another OS, seriously, get an iPhone, cause at least they can get their hardware together and Apple, for all their totalitarianism (which I couldn’t tolerate), acts on behalf of their users for what the carrier provides (visual voice mail, tethering, early upgrades, etc).

	~~Reasonable ways for people to run their own handset on Roger’s system would also be reasonable (eg unsubsidized plans).~~

	~~Thanks.~~

	~~Posted Sep 2, 2010~~

	Below not posted but they posted a more controversial post wit some back and forth:		Below not posted but they posted a more controversial post wit some back and forth: