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==Description==
This wiki is being used to organize the Recent Changes Camp meetup in Portland, Oregon February 3-5, 2006.


= Overview =
We are coming together to make connections, write code, have fun, revise the [[CyberneticRoadmap]], do as much good work as each and every one of us can … and then go home more connected, more energized and more capable of building great communities and the tools they depend on. Bring your friends and join a good party that's growing even better!


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Prepared for http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Spring_2010_SMWCon


== Who is a non-technical person ==
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==Attendees 2006==


* Their focus is not technology, but they can contribute
* [[RashidAhmed]]
* Never learned programming concepts
* [[AllisonRandal]]
* Didn't realize Wikipedia can be edited
* [[AlexPolvi]]
* Maybe used a web content management system, blog, Facebook
* [[AnneGoldenberg]]
* Busy with their own concerns
* [[AntoineBeaupré]]
 
* [[BarbaraGilles]]
== Types and motivations of participants==
* [[BarbaraSehr]]
 
* [[BartMassey]]
* Traditional '''executive''' — "everyone else is doing it," inexpensive solution
* [[BayleShanks]]
** Ideally they will participate but getting them to can be difficult
* [[BlakeBiesecker]]
** May be more cautious about full commitment - license, security, who can access and edit
* [[BrandonCsSanders]]
* '''Creative group''' or '''individual''' — may be inspired but needs constant guidance
* [[BrandonPhilips]]
* '''Worker bee''' — tasked to use the wiki
* [[BrianEllin]]
** May be less receptive to wiki ideals, make it straightforward
* [[BrianKeairns]]
* '''Outside contributors''' - often a stated goal of projects, have their own objectives
* [[BrianKerr]]
** Flexible to meet random demands
* [[BryceHarrington]]
** Fair re-use terms
* [[CalebPhillips]]
 
* [[Charles Maclean]]
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* [[ChrisDawson]]
 
* [[ChristopherAllen]]
= Goals =
* [[ChuckLangenberg]]
 
* [[chromatic]]
== What do they want ==
* [[CindyCooper]]
 
* [[ClayCooper]]
# To solve their problem, often a "one of those" web site with some special requirements
* [[CliffMonlux]]
# Something that looks good - '''design is still paramount'''
* [[CoreyShields]]
# To learn about the participatory web
* [[DavidMandel]]
# To have more control over their own site but keep things simple
* [[DavidPool]]
## Usually they don't want to 'innovate,' just do what everyone else is doing
* [[DunbarAitkens]]
# To work with someone they trust
* [[EmmaKuo]]
# Don't really seem concerned about "silo" and re-use aspects
* [[EricWilhelm]]
 
* [[EthanMcCutchen]]
== What do I want ==
* [[EugeneEricKim]]
 
* [[EvanProdromou]]
# Avoid per client custom code, fit things into the developing picture
* [[FrankDeitle]]
# '''Promote digital literacy ­— filling out forms isn't it, stop treating computers as a typewriter'''
* [[GeoffBurling]]
## Reference-able statements, reusable data under fair terms of re-use
* [[GeriWeisCorbley]]
# Get people to consider issues of site design and how to organize information without overburdening
* [[GerryGleason]]
# '''Promote transparency and co-development'''
* [[GlenEPRopella]]
## Help flatten organizations and their external relationships
* [[IanRomanick]]
## Don't be fearful and build hidden compromises, open it up
* [[IngyDötNet]]
# Grow my own skills based on relevant requirements
* [[Jair]]
## Focused on small groups - Shirky
* [[JamesShore]]
 
* [[JasonMauer]]
= Success=
* [[JohnAbbe]]
 
* [[JohnSechrest]]
In order:
* [[JohnDSmith]]
 
* [[JohnSpady]]
# Useful one-off resource with lots of development input from stakeholders, possible to build on in future
* [[JohnStanton]]
# Contributions by many types of people
* [[JonathanNolen]]
# Basic editing using forms
* [[JonPerr]]
# Wiki markup, categories
* [[JoshHoyt]]
# Sharing knowledge, creating more converts
* [[JulieCaldwell]]
# Creating templates/queries/classes
* [[KaliyaHamlin]]
# Understanding of good class design, distributed data, licensing
* [[KeesCook]]
# Reuse ontologies and web-based content
* [[KennethTyler]]
# Distributed applications, creating standards
* [[LaureDillon]]
 
* [[LevRickards]]
= Failure =
* [[LewisHoffman]]
 
* [[LionKimbro]]
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* [[MarkRoberts]]
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* [[MarieDeatherage]]
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* [[MarkDilley]]
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* [[MarkGrimes]]
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* [[MartinHeltai]]
 
* [[MartinPfahler]]
* Commitment vs follow through
* [[MicheleJenkins]]
** Constant attention, guidance
* [[MikeCannonBrookes]]
* Tangly mess
* [[PatrickSullivan]]
** Better use of SMW features, more forms, patience for gardening
* [[PeterKaminski]]
* Misunderstood requirements, not really listening to what they want
* [[PhilMitchell]]
** Learning experience
* [[PravinPhilip]]
 
* [[RaviArapurakal]]
= How =
* [[RaymondKing]]
 
* [[RicHARDMakepeace]]
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* [[RichHenry]]
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* [[RussellSenior]]
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* [[ScottKveton]]
 
* [[ShawnKilburn]]
Lots and lots of guiding
* [[ShobanaSubramanian]]
 
* [[StuartCohen]]
Inspire - self empowerment, learning culture, creating, leading, "coolness" (graphs), "where the web is going," open source and transparency, participatory web
* [[TedErnst]]
 
* [[TedKubaska]]
Reassure - built on Mediawiki, always exportable
* [[TomAtlee]]
 
* [[TomWynne]]
Threaten - others are doing it, loss of leadership
* [[TonyDeis]]
 
* [[VirginiaHammon]]
Blow past increasing complexity of security to simpler wiki model (all private or all public)
* [[WardCunningham]]
 
* [[WillemLarsen]]
Really enforce importance of discussion tab, history, diff, learning from others ('''view source''').. site evolution as an interest
* [[WillLana]]
 
Appoint leads based on interests, give them responsibilities
 
Peer helpers — spread the virus
 
Translators for those who can't directly contribute
 
Profiles of uses
 
Magic — Exhibit example of copying filtered data and pasting to spreadsheet
 
The importance of design
* promote the cues of Wikipedia but provide something original
 
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= SMW vs Wordpress =
 
Compare Wordpress vs SMW — "Raskin vs Englebart," specialized appliance model vs learning to use a computer
 
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* '''Wordpress''' is task driven software. Forms for every day tasks. SMW is building blocks, play-doh. Helpful to map MW, SMW, extensions but it still won't be the same.
 
Every day tasks —
* Everything oriented towards content management around blogging
* SEO, user management
* "Delete" content, one click
* SMW site will need a UI (immediate functions) inside a UI (MW)
* Learning curve is constant on wordpress, gets steep fast using SMW
 
= Summary=
 
* Some successes with non technical users, usually individuals within orgs
* Patience, constant guidance, listening to requirements are most important
* Build up big expectations but focus on immediate goals
* Some SMW facilities such as task oriented guides would help a lot
** Slick rich page editors - links and annotations - would help a lot
** 'Class' editors work with existing elements
** Visual form editor
* People like visualizations and they can help with shaping and debugging data
* Always focus on their goals rather than ideals, but try to explain the vision, the two should come together
* Use lots of meaningful examples
** Placeography, DiscourseDB, sites related to organization
** Good distributed examples would help too
 
== Questions ==
 
* What are the best extensions to make the site easy to use?
** Do people use the rich text editor?
* Is SMW a good "universal platform?"
 
= Notes =
 
==Notes from conference==
 
* Business people love reports
* Authoring tools - ease of tagging
* Stop saying "semantic" — "knowledge engineering"
* Bad perceptions about wikis - call it "knowledge management"
* Need more white papers instead of mountain of data
* Find meaningful ways to connect to well known solutions (SQL, etc), use it as an integration platform
 
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Revision as of 16:42, 22 May 2010

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Description

This wiki is being used to organize the Recent Changes Camp meetup in Portland, Oregon February 3-5, 2006.

We are coming together to make connections, write code, have fun, revise the CyberneticRoadmap, do as much good work as each and every one of us can … and then go home more connected, more energized and more capable of building great communities and the tools they depend on. Bring your friends and join a good party that's growing even better!

Additional Topics:


Attendees 2006

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