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I attended http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Spring_2010_SMWCon at the MIT CSAIL Lab in sunny Boston. Here are my microblog comments.
I attended http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Spring_2010_SMWCon at the MIT CSAIL Lab in sunny Boston and microblogged (on Twitter) comments on most sessions; my talk is at [[Encouraging Semantic Mediawiki use with non technical people‎]].


* at Spring #SMWCon 2010
== State of the software - Yaron Koren ==
* First challenge for smw: visibility #smwcon
* Second challenge for smw: communication ... duplicate effort #smwcon
* "no brick walls separating users from developers," everyone welcome to contribute #smwcon
* Third challenge, less important, funding ... too much money can hurt a project #smwcon
* "Semantic" is an abused word, use alternatives.. platform.. bur semantic will be the breakthrough? #smwcon
* Karger - many tools are wrong, developers 'guessing' - smw lets users emerge their data/structure, see more tools like smw #smwcon
* Philip of @Ontoprise plan fine access controls; rich editor w annotations, queries; social/dashboard; wikibooks; facet browse, rules #smwcon
* @Ontoprise dev'ing linked open data #LOD between sites — integrate DBPedia (WP), etc; q about dependencies on their proprietary sw #smwcon
* side skype chat discussing problems with rich text editors that mangle output, same problem for many systems #smwcon
* Guoqian Jiang @MayoClinic Lexwiki collab ontology dev ('propose' tab), curate, integrity; SMW to scale/distrib experts, hierch probs #smwcon
* Jie Bao SMW usability (map.rpi.edu, data.gov) UI trumps low level abilities; forms limited; page model restrictive; devs prefer dev #smwcon
* RDF model 'deeply right' for flexbl DB. Fixes: small cadre dev semantics, most use; inline triples; support mult POV; SMW != RDF #smwcon
* Timothy Quievryn SMW impact on @wikia (mostly entertainment); Forms great advance, biggest wikis use it; soon all, dynamic games? #smwcon
* Jesse Wang connects SMW to MS Office for user workflow, usability: uses MS SMartTags. Browse values, easy Outlook export nonfree #smwcon
* Clarence Dillon @DeptofDefense Flexible, purposive SMW use: mil takes 5 years to roll out; hesitate to collab. #smwcon
* "Power corrupts; PowerPoint corrupts absolutely" #smwcon
* simpler comm model for mil w SMW. huge money/time savings. spread via peer pressure. organic, private wikis, gov2gov, triage, social #smwcon
* social networking critical. remote data, vocabularies. encouraging not using Office at all, directly in wiki. wikipatterns #smwcon
* avoid noisy data w forms, "nobody above Major/above 35 uses it" (with exceptions) intel. comm. "learn to collab or lose job" #smwcon
* last one for today I promise.. how do I display tags in ascending date?
* @karger SIMILE, Exhibit, Dido: structured data in embedded novel interfaces for everyone in author society — lenses, views, facets #smwcon
* @karger "You only need one person to be interested in something for it to show up on the Web" Ontario breweries 1914-1915 #smwcon
* online course catalog in 4 days, took 6 months to get data from registrar; easy reuse data; datapress embed in wordpress cross site #smwcon
* Dido inline view/data editor ­— no need to learn schemas, "Make the data look the way you want" separate representation from backend #smwcon
* Yaron Koren @wikiworks Next steps for Semantic Forms better integrated; easier SMW class maint; sep model/view, device UIs; use XML? #smwcon
* wiki markup vs xml, issues moving away from wiki model to create richer, simpler UIs, markup too complicated: a crossroads #smwcon
* No great answers for n-ary data in SMW — no rich page editing, problems with page model? #smwcon


* First challenge for smw: visibility
* Second challenge for smw: communication ... duplicate effort
* "no brick walls separating users from developers," everyone welcome to contribute
* Third challenge, less important, funding ... too much money can hurt a project
* "Semantic" is an abused word, use alternatives.. platform.. but semantic will be the breakthrough?


Here's my talk: [[Encouraging Semantic Mediawiki use with non technical people‎]]
== Welcome address - David Karger  ==


* @karger - many tools are wrong, developers 'guessing' - smw lets users emerge their data/structure, see more tools like smw
* Philip of @Ontoprise plan fine access controls; rich editor w annotations, queries; social/dashboard; wikibooks; facet browse, rules


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== Halo: Current status and future developments in 2010 - Philipp Zaltenbach ==
 
* @Ontoprise dev'ing linked open data #LOD between sites — integrate DBPedia (WP), etc; q about dependencies on their proprietary sw
* side skype chat discussing problems with rich text editors that mangle output, same problem for many systems
 
== Mashup of LexWiki and WebProtege for collaborative ontology authoring - Guoqian Jiang ==
 
* Guoqian Jiang @MayoClinic Lexwiki collab ontology dev ('propose' tab), curate, integrity; SMW to scale/distrib experts, hierch probs
 
 
==The Unbearable Lightness of Wiking - A Study of SMW Usability - Jie Bao  ==
* Jie Bao SMW usability (map.rpi.edu, data.gov) UI trumps low level abilities; forms limited; page model restrictive; devs prefer dev
* RDF model 'deeply right' for flexbl DB. Fixes: small cadre dev semantics, most use; inline triples; support mult POV; SMW != RDF
 
== Applying SMW on the Wikia environment - Timothy Quievryn ==
* Timothy Quievryn SMW impact on @wikia (mostly entertainment); Forms great advance, biggest wikis use it; soon all, dynamic games?
 
== WikiTags: Connecting SMW with MS Office users - Jesse Wang ==
* Jesse Wang connects SMW to MS Office for user workflow, usability: uses MS SMartTags. Browse values, easy Outlook export nonfree
 
== Flexible, purposive SMW use - Clarence Dillon ==
* Clarence Dillon @DeptofDefense Flexible, purposive SMW use: mil takes 5 years to roll out; hesitate to collab.
* "Power corrupts; PowerPoint corrupts absolutely"
* simpler comm model for mil w SMW. huge money/time savings. spread via peer pressure. organic, private wikis, gov2gov, triage, social
* social networking critical. remote data, vocabularies. encouraging not using Office at all, directly in wiki. wikipatterns
* avoid noisy data w forms, "nobody above Major/above 35 uses it" (with exceptions) intel. comm. "learn to collab or lose job"
 
==SIMILE, Exhibit, Wibit, Datapress, and Dido - David Karger ==
* @karger SIMILE, Exhibit, Dido: structured data in embedded novel interfaces for everyone in author society — lenses, views, facets
* @karger "You only need one person to be interested in something for it to show up on the Web" [http://shawnday.com/drink.html Ontario breweries 1914-1915]
* online course catalog in 4 days, took 6 months to get data from registrar; easy reuse data; datapress embed in wordpress cross site
* Dido inline view/data editor ­— no need to learn schemas, "Make the data look the way you want" separate representation from backend
 
==The future of Semantic Forms - Yaron Koren ==
* Yaron Koren @wikiworks Next steps for Semantic Forms better integrated; easier SMW class maint; sep model/view, device UIs; use XML?
* wiki markup vs xml, issues moving away from wiki model to create richer, simpler UIs, markup too complicated: a crossroads
 
==Handling n-ary data - Yaron Koren ==
* No great answers for n-ary data in SMW — no rich page editing, problems with page model?
 
 
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Latest revision as of 18:39, 10 November 2010

I attended http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Spring_2010_SMWCon at the MIT CSAIL Lab in sunny Boston and microblogged (on Twitter) comments on most sessions; my talk is at Encouraging Semantic Mediawiki use with non technical people‎.

State of the software - Yaron Koren

  • First challenge for smw: visibility
  • Second challenge for smw: communication ... duplicate effort
  • "no brick walls separating users from developers," everyone welcome to contribute
  • Third challenge, less important, funding ... too much money can hurt a project
  • "Semantic" is an abused word, use alternatives.. platform.. but semantic will be the breakthrough?

Welcome address - David Karger

  • @karger - many tools are wrong, developers 'guessing' - smw lets users emerge their data/structure, see more tools like smw
  • Philip of @Ontoprise plan fine access controls; rich editor w annotations, queries; social/dashboard; wikibooks; facet browse, rules

Halo: Current status and future developments in 2010 - Philipp Zaltenbach

  • @Ontoprise dev'ing linked open data #LOD between sites — integrate DBPedia (WP), etc; q about dependencies on their proprietary sw
  • side skype chat discussing problems with rich text editors that mangle output, same problem for many systems

Mashup of LexWiki and WebProtege for collaborative ontology authoring - Guoqian Jiang

  • Guoqian Jiang @MayoClinic Lexwiki collab ontology dev ('propose' tab), curate, integrity; SMW to scale/distrib experts, hierch probs


The Unbearable Lightness of Wiking - A Study of SMW Usability - Jie Bao

  • Jie Bao SMW usability (map.rpi.edu, data.gov) UI trumps low level abilities; forms limited; page model restrictive; devs prefer dev
  • RDF model 'deeply right' for flexbl DB. Fixes: small cadre dev semantics, most use; inline triples; support mult POV; SMW != RDF

Applying SMW on the Wikia environment - Timothy Quievryn

  • Timothy Quievryn SMW impact on @wikia (mostly entertainment); Forms great advance, biggest wikis use it; soon all, dynamic games?

WikiTags: Connecting SMW with MS Office users - Jesse Wang

  • Jesse Wang connects SMW to MS Office for user workflow, usability: uses MS SMartTags. Browse values, easy Outlook export nonfree

Flexible, purposive SMW use - Clarence Dillon

  • Clarence Dillon @DeptofDefense Flexible, purposive SMW use: mil takes 5 years to roll out; hesitate to collab.
  • "Power corrupts; PowerPoint corrupts absolutely"
  • simpler comm model for mil w SMW. huge money/time savings. spread via peer pressure. organic, private wikis, gov2gov, triage, social
  • social networking critical. remote data, vocabularies. encouraging not using Office at all, directly in wiki. wikipatterns
  • avoid noisy data w forms, "nobody above Major/above 35 uses it" (with exceptions) intel. comm. "learn to collab or lose job"

SIMILE, Exhibit, Wibit, Datapress, and Dido - David Karger

  • @karger SIMILE, Exhibit, Dido: structured data in embedded novel interfaces for everyone in author society — lenses, views, facets
  • @karger "You only need one person to be interested in something for it to show up on the Web" Ontario breweries 1914-1915
  • online course catalog in 4 days, took 6 months to get data from registrar; easy reuse data; datapress embed in wordpress cross site
  • Dido inline view/data editor ­— no need to learn schemas, "Make the data look the way you want" separate representation from backend

The future of Semantic Forms - Yaron Koren

  • Yaron Koren @wikiworks Next steps for Semantic Forms better integrated; easier SMW class maint; sep model/view, device UIs; use XML?
  • wiki markup vs xml, issues moving away from wiki model to create richer, simpler UIs, markup too complicated: a crossroads

Handling n-ary data - Yaron Koren

  • No great answers for n-ary data in SMW — no rich page editing, problems with page model?



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