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== Notification on users talk page only ==
'''Introducing change into an organization as an individual with no top-down power'''


People's "talk" pages alert them to messages. Their user pages don't. Best wishes! [[User:Robin Patterson|robinp]] 00:46, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
{{#ask: [[Category:CDJKKMP presentation]]
|?Minutes
|?Developer
|?Presenter
|format=table
|sort=Position


Thank you for the tip Robin! - Need to write something up about that function.  [[TalkPagesForWikiPeople]] - best, mark
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== Testing Notification for Message on Talk Page ==
'''Total minutes:  {{#ask:[[Category:CDJKKMP presentation]][[Minutes::+]]|?Minutes|format=sum}}'''


Does it work?  did you get the notification? [[User:Tedernst|Tedernst]] 16:35, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
[[Category:CDJKKMP notes]]
[[Category:CDJKKMP presentation]]


When I first signed up for wikipedia, I was TedErnst, but then somehow couldn't get signed in again using that name so became Tedernst and started editing without realizing what was up. Now I'm attached to it.  Then, since this is also mediawiki, I stuck with the strange name.  I'll fix it out.  Thanks!
== Schedule ==
* By [[Date::July 24, 2009]] - Fri. all revisions, tasks completed


And you can welcome Tristan by editing the talk page (not the user page directly), which is considered fine etiquete at mediawikis, as far as I know. [[User:Tedernst|Tedernst]] 16:49, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
* [[Date::Aug. 11, 2009]] -  Tues.6 pm. meeting, rehearsal, run through etc. at Concordia U. library or 2nd Cup on de Maisonneuve & MacKay with team minus Cleo


* [[Date::Aug. 13, 2009]] - Thurs. 6 pm. final meeting, rehearsal,  run through etc. at Concordia U. library or 2nd Cup on de Maisonneuve & MacKay with all of team


: Mark, I'm okay with whatever is going to happen here and don't need it to look any way, so please know that I love you very much and all my suggestions are just that, suggestions.  I'm here to help. :-)
* By [[Date::June 26, 2009]] - first draft of skits and commentary.


: That said, Mediawiki has some really cool features that I think will be useful to use.  Notice how [[MarkDilley]] and [[User: MarkDilley]] are two different pages?  One is an article and the other is a user.  I believe it'll be cleaner to not have any people in the article namespace, the space that you want to be full of wikis.  When you make a comment that you'd like signed, you don't have to link to anything, you can just type 4 tildes, and it'll expand out with the datestamp and a link to your user page.  [[User:Tedernst|Tedernst]] 16:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
* By [[Date::July 10, 2009]] - First run through of complete piece


* Ted I do not know how to redirect my page [[MarkDilley]] to user:MarkDilley, please do that if you can. I want the simplicity of wiking my name.
* Presentation due [[Date::July 17, 2009]]


: Oh, and I just remembered, media wiki also has a talk page connected with every other page, in every namespace. So if I want to leave a comment for you, I don't leave it on your user page, but on your talk page: [[User talk: MarkDilley]] and you'll get a notification (I'm pretty sure) that you have a new message. [[User:Tedernst|Tedernst]] 16:34, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
* By [[Date::July 17, 2009]] - Fri. at 5 pm, after class practice, meeting, rehearsal of final draft of skits and commentary. Meet with Eric as group to propose wiki as our paper.


:An admin can do it. First, an admin has to delete the page "User:MarkDilley" because it was nothing but a redirect. Then any registered user can move "MarkDilley" page to "User:MarkDilley". [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]] 17:48, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
* By [[Date::Aug 15, 2009]] - presentation and paper completed and submitted


So Tristam, I just [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]] and it goes to my user name or my article name?
[[Media:511_Affinity_Grp_Task_List.doc‎ | Word doc with task outline]]


:: On wikipedia it's really important to preserve edit histories because of the GPL licence.  We don't have that issue here with the CC license, correct?  So a cut and paste move isn't a problem here the way it is there? [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]]
== Todo ==


:::The purpose of moving pages with the move function is to keep the edit history for attributing the page authors. The licence of WikiIndex also requires to attribute the author properly, so the move function is still important. [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]]
=== Group ===


== Link to yourself automatically using tildas ==
* examples of introduced and potential change
* pictures: Cleo, David, <s>Janet</s>, Katherine, Marie-Christine, Philip
* Aug 11 1800h Review meeting
* Aug 13 1830 Final review (Philip to book room)
* One page summary of individual challenges


Just sign your contributions with 4 tildes <nowiki>"~~~~"</nowiki> and you won't need to remember how to link to yourself. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 17:13, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
=== Individual ===


: Yea, I just don't like the time date stamp, so I don't do that.  It is not in my wiki nature :-)
* Marie-Christine - extract points about creating change from [[CDJKKMP Bibliography | bibliography]], characteristics of characters, send in photo, send in one page summary, read scene 1-3 and ensure unity
* David -Wiki Manual, creating cartoon image
* Janet - Fix scene 1, write up summary of meeting,send out warnings and remainders for deadlines, send in one page summary
* Cleo - Fix scene 2, add to bibliography, send photo, send one page summary
* Katherine - Shorten scene 3, write intro and send to team, send photo, send one page summary
*Phillip-write history of change and resistance, send in one page summary or whole essay, send in photo, reserve library for 2 meeting dates, write brief summary of AI, read presentation to ensure an Appreciative approach


::If you don't like the time stamp, you can use three tildes instead. [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]]
Pictures


Okay, well, we're going to have to decide the namespace issue.  I just noticed that John Stanton has his page in the article space as well.  Where can we have that conversation?  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] 17:22, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)
=== Manual ===


It is cleaner to have the name of [[Wiki People]] have article pages.  Thanks for the tild example Tristram! [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]
David - First pass


== Category Sorting ==
Marie-Christine - add bibliography detail


<nowiki>[[Category:Wiki People|Tristram Shandy]]</nowiki>
Philip - Add appreciative inquiry - "what do you want more of" - tell the best experience story, reflect on the experience


The purpose of this code is not to show up and differently on Tristram's page, it's to sort the name properly on the category page.  Otherwise, we'd all end up in the U section, if we're using namespaces.  If we're not using namespaces, then we could use that code to sort by last name, if we wanted to.
{{#ask: [[Category:CDJKKMP notes]][[Date::+]]
 
| ?Date
<nowiki>[[Category:Wiki People|Dilley, Mark]]</nowiki>
|format=calendar
 
}}
== Categoriess at the top? ==
 
Why? [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]]
 
: It is a standard that ICANN wiki used, that we all liked, and the added bonus is that the categories sort before the template categories, giving the first ones more relevance with a folksonomy.
 
Okay, Hopefully I won't hate it too much. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]]
 
:You wrote: "also, the standard we are trying to set is categories at the top of the page." They recommend the opposite in Wikipedia because the newbies may get confused when they see odd-looking category descriptions instead of normal text, when they start to edit a page. There used to be problems with search engines, they showed categories before the normal text in their page summaries. However, I don't know if the search engine problem is occuring any more. [[User:Tristram Shandy|Tristram Shandy]]
 
Personally, I think that is not a problem with this wiki for three reasons:
* The wiki is for other wikis, so one assumes that other contributors are not newbies.
* If we do get a newbie checking out the inside, the data is structured and I think they would be able to figure it out quickly.
* I think categorys in wiki are pretty valuable and exciting things to start to be able to understand, so it is kinda cool to have them smack dab in the front.  My 2 cents. :-)  [[User:MarkDilley|MarkDilley]]

Latest revision as of 19:11, 26 February 2007

Introducing change into an organization as an individual with no top-down power


Total minutes: 0.0e+0

Schedule

  • By July 24, 2009 - Fri. all revisions, tasks completed
  • Aug. 11, 2009 - Tues.6 pm. meeting, rehearsal, run through etc. at Concordia U. library or 2nd Cup on de Maisonneuve & MacKay with team minus Cleo
  • Aug. 13, 2009 - Thurs. 6 pm. final meeting, rehearsal, run through etc. at Concordia U. library or 2nd Cup on de Maisonneuve & MacKay with all of team
  • By June 26, 2009 - first draft of skits and commentary.
  • By July 10, 2009 - First run through of complete piece
  • Presentation due July 17, 2009
  • By July 17, 2009 - Fri. at 5 pm, after class practice, meeting, rehearsal of final draft of skits and commentary. Meet with Eric as group to propose wiki as our paper.
  • By Aug 15, 2009 - presentation and paper completed and submitted

Word doc with task outline

Todo

Group

  • examples of introduced and potential change
  • pictures: Cleo, David, Janet, Katherine, Marie-Christine, Philip
  • Aug 11 1800h Review meeting
  • Aug 13 1830 Final review (Philip to book room)
  • One page summary of individual challenges

Individual

  • Marie-Christine - extract points about creating change from bibliography, characteristics of characters, send in photo, send in one page summary, read scene 1-3 and ensure unity
  • David -Wiki Manual, creating cartoon image
  • Janet - Fix scene 1, write up summary of meeting,send out warnings and remainders for deadlines, send in one page summary
  • Cleo - Fix scene 2, add to bibliography, send photo, send one page summary
  • Katherine - Shorten scene 3, write intro and send to team, send photo, send one page summary
  • Phillip-write history of change and resistance, send in one page summary or whole essay, send in photo, reserve library for 2 meeting dates, write brief summary of AI, read presentation to ensure an Appreciative approach

Pictures

Manual

David - First pass

Marie-Christine - add bibliography detail

Philip - Add appreciative inquiry - "what do you want more of" - tell the best experience story, reflect on the experience

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